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nascar
Nov 6, 2023 14:05:55 GMT -5
Post by Large Marge on Nov 6, 2023 14:05:55 GMT -5
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nascar
Nov 6, 2023 14:23:56 GMT -5
Post by Large Marge on Nov 6, 2023 14:23:56 GMT -5
i thought rubbing was racing.
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nascar
Nov 6, 2023 15:49:57 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Nov 6, 2023 15:49:57 GMT -5
i thought rubbing was racing. "Rubbing is racing" doesn't come from racing. It comes from Hollywood. It's a line from Days of Thunder. People have also misinterpreted it as "banging everyone is part of racing" but it's really just saying that slight contact happens in racing. The same character later criticized driver Cole Trickle for hitting everyone. He made the joke that he wants him to exit the pit lane back onto the track and hit the pace car because he already hit everyone else. It's hard for someone that isn't a race car driver to really understand what it's like to have someone driving poorly make a bad move and completely throw away your entire race weekend and possibly your championship hopes, depending on the scenario. Let me try using something anyone can relate to. You have a lottery ticket that you know won you $500,000. I accidently drop it into a fireplace. Now you won nothing. Oops. My bad. That's how it feels to work your butt off all race weeking and through a long race only to have someone make a bonehead move that throws your race away. |
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nascar
Nov 6, 2023 16:39:35 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Nov 6, 2023 16:39:35 GMT -5
I was going to post a clip of Trickle being told to hit the pace car but I won't because of language in the video.
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nascar
Nov 6, 2023 17:42:23 GMT -5
Post by Large Marge on Nov 6, 2023 17:42:23 GMT -5
even if they get wrecked they still make millions of dollars. and the fans enjoy the crashes.
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nascar
Nov 6, 2023 19:24:05 GMT -5
Post by Paladin on Nov 6, 2023 19:24:05 GMT -5
If someone can't get ahead without wrecking people they can't be that good of a driver. I know if someone wrecked me out I'd be after someone.
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nascar
Nov 7, 2023 11:37:39 GMT -5
Post by camila on Nov 7, 2023 11:37:39 GMT -5
If someone can't get ahead without wrecking people they can't be that good of a driver. I know if someone wrecked me out I'd be after someone. I'm not a race driver but I agree. If you can't beat me fair you're not a winner. |
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Post by Yeti on Nov 7, 2023 11:52:14 GMT -5
even if they get wrecked they still make millions of dollars. and the fans enjoy the crashes. I know the fans enjoy crashes, but they shouldn't. Crashes are what happens when things go wrong, and if one's favorite part of a sport is when things go wrong then there's something wrong with their sport. It's not just about how much money they made, either. It's hard to explain a driver's personal investment in their race to someone that isn't a driver. It's like explaining a rainbow to a person blind from birth - hard to do with no frame of reference. Imagine you spent hundreds of hours working on a craft project you've put your heart and soul into and I stumble while walking by and somehow accidentally destroy it. That's kinda how it feels when you're a driver and someone's carelessness and disrespect throws their race away. How well they perform in their raves will also remain their legacy and it's not right if their race results go down as poorer than they should have been. Their performance can also affect their future in the sport and sponsorship opportunities and dollars. Wrecks are also dangerous, not just to drivers but even to crews and spectators. Racing is a lot safer than in the past but the danger is still there, not only of injury but even death. I've watched several drivers die in the past couple decades even. I don't want to see a driver die or even get injured. Death can come to more than just drivers, too. During the 1955 24 Hours of Le Mans, a crash killed the driver plus 83 spectators and injured 120 more fans. It's horrible to want that to happen. |
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nascar
Nov 7, 2023 13:49:01 GMT -5
Post by Jörmungandr on Nov 7, 2023 13:49:01 GMT -5
Yeti you make a powerful argument. That Lemans crash sounds nuts. I can't imagine so many innocent people dieing in a race crash.
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nascar
Nov 7, 2023 18:38:47 GMT -5
Post by SamDalton on Nov 7, 2023 18:38:47 GMT -5
even if they get wrecked they still make millions of dollars. and the fans enjoy the crashes. Wrecks are also dangerous, not just to drivers but even to crews and spectators. Racing is a lot safer than in the past but the danger is still there, not only of injury but even death. I've watched several drivers die in the past couple decades even. I don't want to see a driver die or even get injured. Death can come to more than just drivers, too. During the 1955 24 Hours of Le Mans, a crash killed the driver plus 83 spectators and injured 120 more fans. It's horrible to want that to happen. It's going to be hard to argue with that. Congratulations on winning the internet. |
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nascar
Nov 7, 2023 18:38:49 GMT -5
Post by Paladin on Nov 7, 2023 18:38:49 GMT -5
How exactly did so many people get wiped out at Le Mas?
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nascar
Nov 9, 2023 6:54:59 GMT -5
Post by camila on Nov 9, 2023 6:54:59 GMT -5
www.motorsport.com/nascar-truck/news/nascar-penalizes-heim-truck-phoenix-hocevar-payback/10544481/NASCAR penalizes Heim for Hocevar payback NASCAR has penalized Truck Series driver Corey Heim for his actions during the title-decider at Phoenix Raceway. Although Heim denied that he intentionally wrecked Hocevar in his post-race interviews, NASCAR has since reviewed radio transmissions from the No. 11 team at Phoenix and determined that Heim violated the Member Conduct guidelines, specifically the following sections of the NASCAR rule book: *Attempting to manipulate the outcome of the Race or championship. *Wrecking or spinning another vehicle, whether or not that vehicle is removed from Competition as a result. *Any actions deemed to compromise the safety of an Event or otherwise pose a dangerous risk to the safety of Competitors, Officials, spectators, or others.
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Post by Yeti on Nov 9, 2023 16:43:54 GMT -5
How exactly did so many people get wiped out at Le Mas? Sorry. I missed this. It's a bit complicated. To begin with, we need to establish that there wasn't a designated lane for people entering pit lane. They just flew down the track like those not pitting and suddenly dive into the pit entrance. Coming up on the start/finish straight and pits, Lance Maclin was coming up behind Mike Hawthorn, and then Pierre Levegh was rapidly approaching Maclin with Juan Manuel Fangio behind Levegh. Levegh and Fangio were faster and went to pass Maclin on the straight when Hawthorn suddenly slowed to dive into the pits. Maclin had to take evasive maneuvers to avoid a collision with Hawthorn, but this sudden maneuver drove him into Levegh. Levegh's front-right wheel climbed onto the rear-left corner of Macklin's car, which ramped Levegh's car into the air over spectators and rolling end over end for hundreds of feet. Levegh was hurled from his tumbling car and hit the ground, crushing his skull upon impact and killing him instantly. His car went into grandstands and bounced into a stairwell where the car was obliterated. The heaviest parts of the car like the engine block hurled through the stands, mowing down anyone in their path. The bonnet swung through the packed crowd and decapitated spectators. The fuel tank exploded and set the remains of the car ablaze. Crews had no idea how to combat exotic magnesium fires and water intensified the flames, which burned for hours. Videos exist but I will not post one. |
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nascar
Nov 9, 2023 19:19:02 GMT -5
Post by Jörmungandr on Nov 9, 2023 19:19:02 GMT -5
Thats aweful. I get why you dont post a vid.
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nascar
Nov 10, 2023 7:00:46 GMT -5
Post by camila on Nov 10, 2023 7:00:46 GMT -5
That's horrible. Hopefully nothing like that happens again.
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Dec 24, 2023 9:52:55 GMT -5
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