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Oct 18, 2023 11:49:48 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Oct 18, 2023 11:49:48 GMT -5
In school my classmates called me Phil Nye the Science Guy, as a joke reference to Bill Nye the Science Guy, because I was a science geek. I saw something interesting a bit ago. Evidently we've discovered remains of a housing structure built 476,000 years ago, predating modern home sapiens. It clearly wasn't natural or something created accidentally because they indicate deliberately cut notches to fit them together. Beside the home they also found early tools and work including a digging stick, a wedge, a notched branch, and cut log. futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-find-structure-before-homo-sapiens
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Oct 18, 2023 14:36:48 GMT -5
Post by Jörmungandr on Oct 18, 2023 14:36:48 GMT -5
Cool. Sci-fi is awesome.
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Oct 18, 2023 15:57:28 GMT -5
Post by Large Marge on Oct 18, 2023 15:57:28 GMT -5
science is lies from the devil to stray us away from the light of jesus.
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Oct 18, 2023 17:46:59 GMT -5
Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2023 17:46:59 GMT -5
Well, now to see how this goes.
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Oct 18, 2023 18:38:35 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Oct 18, 2023 18:38:35 GMT -5
Alright, this and the other topic will take a bit of time to type up a reply to and I'm at work so I'll get back when I think I have enough time to sneak in a response. Be patient with me.
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Oct 18, 2023 19:11:16 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Oct 18, 2023 19:11:16 GMT -5
Alright, I'll try to hammer out at least a short response to at least one of these for now. I'm not sure how much time I will have.
I feel like I've already touched on this before but a key difference between science and religion is that science is based on evidence whereas religion thrives in the lack thereof. Science never requires you to just take their word for anything, but religion entirely relies on taking their word for it. There's no shortage of people that point to a Bible and declare that it's evidence. It's a book, just like Harry Potter. Hogwarts and wizards aren't real just because there's books about them.
"Science has you believe books."
No, the books are like a cheat sheet, giving you the answers that other people have invested a ridiculous amount of time finding. You aren't required to simply take their word for it, though. You are invited to do your own research. Science welcomes you challenging what they think they know because that's how you test it to see if it holds up or not. Religion hates being questioned and requires you not to. You're supposed to just shut up and go with it.
Don't believe what climatologists tell you? That's perfectly fine. You're more than welcome to spend eight years in college studying the basics to be a climatologist and then you can invest a couple decades of your life going around the world conducting scientific studies on the environment to reach the same conclusion other experts on the matter already reached and told you. Alternatively, you can accept that they know more about it than you do and let them give you the answers.
What we can't do is just flatly reject the answers based simply on us not liking them. If you have compelling evidence to the contrary, that's justification for doubt, but your faith isn't evidence. Find evidence that refutes the currently accepted science, but don't simply reject it because you don't like the answer.
Most Christians I personally know don't reject all science. They mainly just challenge the parts that specifically contradict their beliefs. The rest they tend to accept, like Earth being a ball and not being the center of the universe. That's still not logical, but at least they accept the majority of science.
A big difference between science and religion is they work from opposite directions. Science looks for evidence and then tries to see what that evidence suggests. They base their position on where the evidence is pointing. Religion takes the opposite approach. Religion determines the answer first and firmly sticks with it, and then tries making everything git that answer. Anything that doesn't fit the answer is rejected. Science is willing to refine their answer if new evidence suggests the previous answer was inaccurate.
Okay, let's say you're in court, on trial accused of murder. Do you want the jury to reach a verdict based on the evidently presented or to reject the evidence in favor of what their gut tells them? Obviously you'd want to be judged based on facts and evidence and not on faith.
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Oct 18, 2023 21:50:54 GMT -5
Post by Paladin on Oct 18, 2023 21:50:54 GMT -5
I don't think that was a short response but a good one. Kudos.
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Oct 19, 2023 9:33:00 GMT -5
Post by Large Marge on Oct 19, 2023 9:33:00 GMT -5
there gut should tell them im inocent.
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Oct 19, 2023 10:30:49 GMT -5
Post by camila on Oct 19, 2023 10:30:49 GMT -5
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Oct 19, 2023 11:24:59 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Oct 19, 2023 11:24:59 GMT -5
there gut should tell them im inocent. I think I've cover this before but the gut isn't a magical sense we have that somehow knows the unknowable and sees the unseen. People's guts are wrong all the time. They could just as well "know" you're guilty even if evidence fails to adequately support that.
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Oct 19, 2023 11:27:31 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Oct 19, 2023 11:27:31 GMT -5
I wish we could multi-quote. The thing I hate about articles about stuff like this is people see "headed to Earth" and think that means a collision or potential collision. They always mean that its coming relatively close, like through our neighborhood. This particular comet, for example, is expected to pass my again in 2090-something.
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Oct 19, 2023 11:45:10 GMT -5
Post by camila on Oct 19, 2023 11:45:10 GMT -5
I didn't mean I thought it was going to hit us.
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Oct 19, 2023 12:04:35 GMT -5
Post by Yeti on Oct 19, 2023 12:04:35 GMT -5
I didn't mean I thought it was going to hit us. I'm sorry. There's been a misunderstanding. I didn't mean to imply that you thought that. I was generalizing. I was speaking of these types of articles in general and people in general. On Facebook, for example, people often comment without actually even clicking on the article to read it. They see "headed for Earth" and imagine the movie Armageddon.
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Oct 19, 2023 17:13:37 GMT -5
Post by Paladin on Oct 19, 2023 17:13:37 GMT -5
God I hope a jury never judges me by gut feeling.
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Oct 19, 2023 17:47:40 GMT -5
Post by Admin on Oct 19, 2023 17:47:40 GMT -5
I wish we could multi-quote. I looked into it and we can. It just isn't obvious. I wish someone had made a plugin with buttons to multi-quote. If you're using a physical keyboard, hold the ALT key and click in the messages you want to quote, and then if you click a quote button it plugs all those selected messages into the reply field as quotes. I tried it and it works.
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